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Group Consensus?

Can we reach a group agreement as to whether we should continue to blog or not? I personally believe that we should continue, only if certain changes are made. Groups should be expanded to groups of six to eight people, as there would be more posts to comment on. Having more members would mitigate the negative effects from members who do not post in a timely manner.

I find that there are so many possibilities when using Blogger. An important aspect is learning how to make constructive comments on other people's work. It helps that Blogger's comments are so much faster than written comments. It is vital to be able to make constructive comments, as it allows you to work with others by pointing out flaws in others' work while at the same time being encouraging. In addition, considering  how Blogger is an electronic medium, it is susceptible to various techinical issues. This forces us to use critical thinking should a problem arise. In addition, Blogger emphasizes the necessity of aesthetically pleasing and legible visual representation. Essentially, blog administrators must design a blog that would at the same time be easy to read and appear attractive.

What do the rest of you feel about continuing to blog? Can we all agree upon a course of action?

Should We Continue With Blogging?

I think that blogging is a very advance way of showing our thinking using the technology we have today. Using this type of method to show our thinking has many pros, like the fact that we can change anything that we write. This way, what ever we type can be changed by simply clicking a button and changing the part that we miss interpreted. We can also have the privacy we need in our homes to comment on others to improve their writing, in a respectable way of course. Nothing in the world can be one hundred percent help to anyone, including this blog. There can be a lack of communication, as we can not constantly look at our comments for an answer to our questions. There are also people that can abuse the privileges of using this technology, as we can stray off topic and talk about something else (Also spam). Since I believe everyone feels very secure and free about what ever they are writing about, my answer will be a yes.

Should we continue blogging?

Miss Lees asked us if we should continue blogging with other projects. Blogger did help us problem solve such as my router problem, but some groups got "lazy" and did not post there writings so there peers could not complete their homework by commenting. Though there are many pros to blogging I strongly disagree with some of my peers that we should continue blogging. There were too many technical issues involved with blogger and some students got easily distracted with other forms of media while on the computer. I think we should just do it the old-fashioned way and write our work.

Should we continue blogging?

In response to Ms. Lees' question, we should continue blogging. When blogging, we are using an effective data output tool, with one’s posts able to be seen by people from all over the world. As well, comments, an indispensable resource, are so instant and convenient through Blogger. That way, we can quickly receive feedback for our work and use it to revise our work. On a side note, designing a template for our blogs and making it aesthetically pleasing while at the same time legible is a useful lesson in presentation.

When using blogger, we learn a multitude of skills, such as learning how to make constructive comments on other people's work and using others' feedback to improve your own work. Having such expedient comments through blogger certainly helps. Being able to make constructive comments is a vital life skill, as it allows you to work with others by collaborating and pointing out flaws in others' work while at the same time being encouraging. In addition, bearing in mind how Blogger is an electronic medium, it is susceptible to various techinical issues. This requires us to use critical thinking in order to solve issues that may arise. For example, if the spaces in your posts appear different from how you wrote them, you could experiment with Blogger to find a solution, such as editing the text directly in HTML to fix formatting errors.

As for suggestions to augment our blogging experience, larger groups would be a better idea. In a group of six to eight people, there would be more posts to comment on. As well, if the teacher said to comment on three other posts, and someone garnered numerous comments while another received none, it would be a valuable lesson in sense of audience. As well, having more members would mitigate the negative effects from members who do not post in a timely manner.

links

I like the links you have added - the MSND full text will come in handy for those who forget their books.

5 questions - posted very late

I am glad to see you catching up on your posting. However, I can tell that with two weeks past since we had the lesson, practiced together in class, and assigned the task, you have forgotten some of the directions and criteria we discussed. For example - several of the questions are way too brad and big for the purposes of our blog positing.
Hopefully, this helps to emphasize the need for timely completion of your work.

Revising The five Questions

My question: How do you think people reacted when an act of unfairness is done?

M F
How has life changed from Shakespearean England? Why?

After: How has the life from Shakespearean England differ from today's life? Why?

KB
Do you see a difference in modern England and enland in the book (1600s).

After: Is there a difference in Shakespearean England compared to the England now?

JC
I think he blog questions should talk about “what will happn f you don’t study hard right now or do you think people who are smart and intelliget has a better jobs? Because it is an important or interesting thoughts were in high school and should know more about it/ Blog is a fun experient.

After: I do not think this question should be used. This has nothing to do with Shakespearean England, and this refers to life now.

RM
Was Shakespeare as poplular a writer in the time of the sotry as he is today? Will he be in the future?
Why do certain events occur? Does it have to do with the arts or people’s interests?

After: I think the question that should be used is the first one because, this sounds like two parts. Also the two questions are not related.

NR
Does the law in Shakespearean times similar to the way the law is today?

After: Is the law in Shakespearean England similar to the laws today?

Response to Question #4 (Revised)

Men and women of Elizabethan England were certainly not equals. How did this inequality fare in their society? How was this portrayed in Cue for Treason?

"Historical fiction is a popular genre, but when reading it can be difficult not to apply today's values to the past (the same is true when studying history in general). The character of Kit causes the reader to examine the role gender plays in our society. What can we learn about the differences between the role of men and women in Elizabethan society through the characters of our novel? In your argument, discuss both how they are treated and how they are portrayed. Finally, do you think they are realistic portrayals for the time period?"

The novel Cue for Treason is set in Elizabethan England, at a time when the roles of men and women were very distinct. This is evidenced in the family of Peter Brownrigg, who is the novel’s adolescent protagonist who flees his home to escape from the law. The men in his family go out to do work while the females work at home. This contrast is also reflected with Mr. and Mrs. Desmond, a couple who makes their living as travelling actors and working in the theater. The men in these families play a dominant role, while the women backed the men up. In the novel, the women were generally not treated as well as the men, though they appeared content with where they were. Most of them were realistic portrayals of Elizabethan women, save for Kit, a girl who escapes a forced marriage and disguises herself as a boy in order to pursue a career as an actor.

In Elizabethan society, men act as the family breadwinners, while women play a supporting role in the family. They would perform copious amounts of work, such as tending to their children, cooking and preparing meals, mending clothes, and all sorts of housekeeping chores. In Peter’s family, for example, his father and brother would be the ones to go out to do work, such as tending to their animals and splitting logs (p. 216). His mother and sisters, on the other hand, would be making cheese or preparing meals (p. 31: “My sisters were cheese-making.”). In the example of Mr. and Mrs. Desmond, their roles are even further contrasted. Mr. Desmond would be the one who acted onstage and lead and direct the players of his company. Mrs. Desmond, however, would be backstage, doing nothing but stitching and darning costumes (p. 84: “…Mrs. Desmond, with nothing more important to do than darning and sticking costumes.”). The men would do the more “important” jobs, with the women helping them with numerous “minor” jobs.

Women in Elizabethan England were definitely not treated as equal to men. Rather, they were treated as second-rate, and performed the upholding roles. Overall, they appeared content with their role, and were happy to do their jobs. This was probably because they knew no other way of working, and for the time period, it was the only way to sustain a family. However, Kit Kirkstone (a.k.a. Katharine Russell) feels differently, and she challenges the social norm of excluding women from the theatre. Having been forced into a formal public engagement to a man who wants to marry her only for her property, Kit escapes it by running away from home and disguising herself as a boy to become an actor, as women are not allowed to act. The very notion of it was completely unheard of. (p. 84): “There would be a fearful scandal if any of our audiences had realized that we had brought a young girl on to the public stage.” But, aside from Kit, the women in the novel are portrayed as “ladylike” and seem satisfied with their role in the family.

Peter’s mother and sisters, along with Mrs. Desmond, are accurate representations of Elizabethan-era women. They take a backseat role in their households, with Mrs. Brownrigg and her daughters maintaining their home and completing various chores around the house. Mrs. Desmond also worked in a similar way, with a comparatively minor role to her husband. As travelling actors, Mr. Desmond and his company would perform the plays, while Mrs. Desmond would fix costumes and organize their props (p. 51). Kit, however, is not a realistic portrayal; she did not adhere to the social norms of the time. She escaped from a forced marriage, acts onstage, and eventually ends up working as a spy for Queen Elizabeth’s Secret Service. Conventionally, women of the time would live peaceful lives and make no attempt at avoiding forced marriages. They would be expected to support their husband and family, and would not break any social norms. Even Queen Elizabeth describes Kit, in the novel, as “very unladylike”, citing how Kit went “gallivanting about the country on stolen horses disguised as a boy”. Suffice to say, all women in Cue for Treason were realistic, save for Kit.

Though women’s roles in Elizabethan England were very distinct and arguably inferior to men’s, women at the time complied with the social norm. Though they may have been considered second-rate, women during Elizabethan England were certainly vital in sustaining their families. The supporting role they had was necessary ensure the overall success of the family. The novel Cue for Treason is an excellent historical source in regards to its realistic portrayal of women, with the exception of Kit, whose unorthodox behaviour was evidently fictitious. Even though women of Elizabethan England had a backseat role to men, they were absolutely important in maintaining their households.

Treason Q

My Question:
In Shakespearian England women seem to have almost no rights when it comes to almost anything. For example, Kit must disguise herself as a boy to perform in the plays. Why do you think that men were considered better than woman at this time?
SK
Original: Why was the people at that time so violent? What do you think? Is it similar to today?
Revised: Why were the people at that time so violent? Is it similar to today? What Do You Think?
JZ
Original: Why would the Spanish-backed Fifth Column of Sir Philip Morton want to install a new Spanish-Friendly Government by assassinating Queen Elizabeth.

How was the Elizabethan Era, referred as a "Great English Renaissance" really that great? Oppressive government policies like the counter-productive Enclosure Act which sent thousands into poverty, could potentially cause rebellion, would the Renaissance be really called a renaissance or an age of oppression?

Is the Anglo-Spanish War still occuring? If so then... (refer to question 1)
Revised:Why would the Spanish-backed Fifth Column of Sir Philip Morton want to install a new Spanish-Friendly Government by assassinating Queen Elizabeth? Why was the Elizabethan Era considered a "Great English Renaissance" as it is reffered? Oppressive government policies like the counter-productive Enclosure Act which sent thousands into poverty, could potentially cause rebellion, would the Renaissance be really called a renaissance or an age of oppression?

Is the Anglo-Spanish War still occuring? If so then refer to question 1

RM
Original: Are things that were enjoyed in the past, be enjoyed by people today? Or will technology change how we view the those past entertainers?
How does the arts from the past connect with current events during that time? How can it connect with current events in our world today?
Revised: Are things that were enjoyed in the past, be enjoyed today? Or is technology changing how we view entertainment? How does the arts from the past connect with current events during that time? How can it connect with current events in our world today?

Response to Question #4

"Historical fiction is a popular genre, but when reading it can be difficult not to apply today's values to the past (the same is true when studying history in general). The character of Kit causes the reader to examine the role gender plays in our society. What can we learn about the differences between the role of men and women in Elizabethan society through the characters of our novel. In your argument, discuss both how they are treated and how they are portrayed. Finally, do you think they are realistic portrayals for the time period."

The novel Cue for Treason is set in Elizabethan England, at a time when the roles of men and women were very distinct. This is evidenced in the family of Peter Brownrigg, who is the novel’s adolescent protagonist who flees his home to escape from the law. The men in his family go out to do work while the females work at home. This contrast is also reflected with Mr. and Mrs. Desmond, a couple who makes their living as travelling actors and working in the theater. The men in these families play a dominant role, while the women backed the men up. In the novel, the women were generally not treated as well as the men, though they appeared content with where they were. Most of them were realistic portrayals of Elizabethan women, save for Kit, a girl who escapes a forced marriage and disguises herself as a boy in order to pursue a career as an actor.

In Elizabethan society, men act as the family breadwinners, while women play a supporting role in the family. They would perform copious amounts of work, such as tending to their children, cooking and preparing meals, mending clothes, and all sorts of housekeeping chores. In Peter’s family, for example, his father and brother would be the ones to go out to do work, such as tending to their animals and splitting logs (p. 216). His mother and sisters, on the other hand, would be making cheese or preparing meals (p. 31: “My sisters were cheese-making.”). In the example of Mr. and Mrs. Desmond, their roles are even further contrasted. Mr. Desmond would be the one who acted onstage and lead and direct the players of his company. Mrs. Desmond, however, would be backstage, doing nothing but stitching and darning costumes (p. 84: “…Mrs. Desmond, with nothing more important to do than darning and sticking costumes.”). The men would do the more “important” jobs, with the women helping them with numerous “minor” jobs.

Women in Elizabethan England were definitely not treated as equal to men. Rather, they were treated as second-rate, and performed the upholding roles. Overall, they appeared content with their role, and were happy to do their jobs. This was probably because they knew no other way of working, and for the time period, it was the only way to sustain a family. However, Kit Kirkstone (a.k.a. Katharine Russell) feels differently, and she challenges the social norm of excluding women from the theatre. Having been forced into a formal public engagement to a man who wants to marry her only for her property, Kit escapes it by running away from home and disguising herself as a boy to become an actor, as women are not allowed to act. The very notion of it was completely unheard of. (p. 84): “There would be a fearful scandal if any of our audiences had realized that we had brought a young girl on to the public stage.” But, aside from Kit, the women in the novel are portrayed as “ladylike” and seem satisfied with their role in the family.

Peter’s mother and sisters, along with Mrs. Desmond, are accurate representations of Elizabethan-era women. They take a backseat role in their households, with Mrs. Brownrigg and her daughters maintaining their home and completing various chores around the house. Mrs. Desmond also worked in a similar way, with a comparatively minor role to her husband. As travelling actors, Mr. Desmond and his company would perform the plays, while Mrs. Desmond would fix costumes and organize their props (p. 51). Kit, however, is not a realistic portrayal; she did not adhere to the social norms of the time. She escaped from a forced marriage, acts onstage, and eventually ends up working as a spy for Queen Elizabeth’s Secret Service. Conventionally, women of the time would live peaceful lives and make no attempt at avoiding forced marriages. They would be expected to support their husband and family, and would not break any social norms. Even Queen Elizabeth describes Kit, in the novel, as “very unladylike”, citing how Kit went “gallivanting about the country on stolen horses disguised as a boy”. Suffice to say, all women in Cue for Treason were realistic, save for Kit.